xavi wrote:Yes, 18... You read well! 6 per race, multiplied by 3 races. Is that enough for you ?
The creation process of the new units has started. I will release more info along the next days. Here is the beginning:

1. Units of Mass destruction
Goal: to break defense walls with AOE. These units are the most powerful and destructive units in the game. They will be expensive and one time use with a very long cool down.

2. Tank buster units
Goal: to inflict high damage to heavy ground units from ranged attacks

3. Amphibian units
Goal: to increase diversity in naval fights and favor skirmish from ranged attacks. Amphibians are versatile units that can go on land and in water.

4. Cheap under water units
Goal: to counter heavy aquatic units.

5. Anti aerial unit
Goal: to counter standoff aerial fights.

6. Terrain mutator units.
Goal: to transform terrain.

  Duaneski wrote:
I guess khral could do some burrowing stuff. Underground tunnels for GH that are like 3-5 hexes would be pretty insane

  lodeous wrote:I think amphibious units should get positive terrain bonuses from swamp tiles. It would make gameplay with them more interesting. They could have negative terrain bonuses on other land tiles.

  medricel wrote:

I'd rather turn the concept on its ear - khrals have a saboteur unit that destroys roads instead of makes them. Having a point-to-point tunnel would be too easy to camp out the exits.

  lodeous wrote:I think amphibious units should get positive terrain bonuses from swamp tiles. It would make gameplay with them more interesting. They could have negative terrain bonuses on other land tiles.

  xavi wrote:Some units like AOE and terrain mutation will be very powerful and that will come at a significant cost.

  Duaneski wrote:Okay consider the terraform units I suggested. Can you imagine a way any of these would break a map? And mind you that's a very 'off the top of my head' idea.

I can't see them breaking any maps. At worst the Khral one maybe. But the cost of those could go to 300 and then i feel confident it would be fine.

So yes we can't just make a 50 cost unit that can build mountains every turn, but I don't think that's the idea at all.

If you guys have specific worries I would love to hear them though. So please provide some specific scenarios if you would ...

Much love

  join wang wrote:

GravitySE because I feel that the defining feature of the map is the mountains keeping the players apart to remove would ... well you get the idea.

  medricel wrote:I had another idea for the terrain-modifying unit. Give it the ability to build destructible walls. They cannot be passed by heavy units, but light units are able to cross them with a turn delay. Think of it like a buried underling that has a zone-of-control effect on its single tile. The wall would be identifiable to the player/race that made it, and have different stats and costs, and would be categorized as ground heavy. Saps would have a light, cheap fence that can't take much damage. Titans would have thick paneled walls which can take abuse. Khraleans could have some sort of web/bone structure that is in the middle. Whether or not friendly heavies should be blocked by walls, I don't know. Adding gates seems an overly complicated extension to the system and doesn't seem necessary.

  Duaneski wrote:That would work. Could have increased cost for Titan walls since they're stronger

My problem w this is that it promotes a defensive play style. So I don't Love that about it