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amidama

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Here im planning to discus details abiut the matches where one player uses the undo (paid or relogin), and another is not.
First player with who we are probably will make a match(or several) is evr1022
his rating is about 300 above my, and he is planning to play without the undo.
I will keep using it. Hypotetically the undo will make our chances to win somewhat equal.
If someone else is willing to make such test too, post it here.
ultimate goal of this test is to find out what is the bonus that the undo gives to player, and does it gives anything.

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interesting test.
Better if played in mirror.
players (rank), matchup and map should also be in the result posted here.

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Me thinks that 300 is too much. Anyways, you guys know I'm a lame player. I could test this vs a 1900 to see if this is true.

No I don't have unlimited undo.

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Anytime you are ready to start go ahead and send invites. I can probably handle 2 or 3 at once right now.
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first mirror match with evr1022 is over.
i did win 2 games from 2.
evr1022 rating currently is 2504
my current rating is 2125.
we did play abrasive map (xavis favorite ), KvT and TvK, ro ensure that we will both will have equal opportunities.

next match is planned with legia.

in a first game evr1022 tried to attack my pinzer that was standing on a medic pad, but he wasnt able to kill my pinzer.
so next turn i healed it, but he now had damaged plasma and 3 damaged speeders.
then he tried to attack wyrm on a medic pad, but i had a infector out of his sight, so i healed my wyrm in 1 turn.
and i hide several underlings around the walker, pobably he was not able to see where exactly they are, so he did not cover them with other units.

in a TvK match evr1022 was trying to attack my plasma with lots of underlings, but i guess i was able to cover most of them using the undo, so he decided to not to attack while not all of them can attack at one. and then he put his pinzer in forest (probably a mistake?) and i attacked it with all my units and destroyed the pinzer.

on average i used 5 undo per turn. each attack i was checking several possibilities. if i was not able to kill a unit, i canceled my attack and saved my units. it happend many, many times.

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Cool test gents
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i hope to see a report from evr1022 too
im sure he would explain things better than I.
we are playing another mirrored match with evr1022 too, btw.

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we had a mirror match at map abrasive
enemy nickname porphyr2 (alt of porphyr)
his score is 1896
my score is 2125
i was not using the undo, he was using it
i won 1 match where i was S and he was K
He won 1 match, where he was S and I was K

when i was sap i made a simple but effective marine+helicopter rush, mainly marines.
he made some garudas, but they was not effective against marines.

when i was khral i was not able to scout the territory and i missed his attack.
he went to a pure helicopter rush. i didnt expect it, and build a pinzer, to counter marines.
eventually he killed my garudas because i spent too much credits on uits thst was useless against copters.

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we played another mirror match with evr1022
he won one of them, and i won another.
we played map abrasive, TvK and KvT
both of us win as a T
it takes me 2 turns longer to win (he won in 23 turns, i won in 25 turns)

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Sorry for the delay in writing this up - had to finish some tournament games.

The first battle on the map abrasive was very challenging. I took some risks early as the Titans, and it did not pay off. I also tried building a Walker, but that was futile without being able to locate underlings via undo. As Khralaens I simply was unable to counter the mobility of the speeder with a plasma tank supporting.

Next battle I played more fundamentally sound as Titans - lots of speeders, some mecha, a couple eclipse, a plasma, and NO WALKERS. It worked well. I patiently built up my attack then pressed forward and was able to win without too much difficulty. As Khralaens, however, I was unable to do much better. I held out for 25 rounds, but I was on the defensive the entire game. I fought off his first wave but the second wave crushed me. I don't think I can win that match up without undo.
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Thanks for the feedback ever

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