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Aug 28, 2017 16:17

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

MilanGM

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You (developers) should fake sometimes real players with bots. Nobody could really tell the difference, except maybe in the chat window, but hey! There are people that don't want to talk.
Reason to fake players? - To make multiplayer (and entire game) more alive! I feel that there are too few active players in the game. :-/

Aug 28, 2017 17:44

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

LkASr

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sounds like a really good idea, it'll also practice ourselves too

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Aug 29, 2017 09:16

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

wookieontheweb

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Bots are too dumb. They play at a sub 1500 level. They are also really obviously bot players as they all play the same way and once you know it's a bot its too easy to beat. e.g. You can beat a bot simply by building engineer type units, assuming that engineer will convert the bot's base unit ... bots never learn.

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Aug 29, 2017 15:31

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

LkASr

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wookieontheweb wrote:Bots are too dumb. They play at a sub 1500 level. They are also really obviously bot players as they all play the same way and once you know it's a bot its too easy to beat. e.g. You can beat a bot simply by building engineer type units, assuming that engineer will convert the bot's base unit ... bots never learn.

He meant creating AIs based on our performance and playstyle, a custom learning AI

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Aug 29, 2017 19:53

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

Batteries

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LkASr wrote:

He meant creating AIs based on our performance and playstyle, a custom learning AI

That's a huuuuuuuge undertaking. Maybe they should work on the backlog first...

Aug 30, 2017 02:07

Subject: Re:You should fake real players with bots

lodeous

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The difference in skill level between your average 1500 level player and a bot is immense.

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Apr 02, 2018 17:28

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

keymaster2

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some bots are quite good.some 1799 bots can beat me

Apr 03, 2018 16:07

Subject: Re:You should fake real players with bots

StarryBlink

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If you known it's bot, just deliver one fine plaque then you win.
Bot never do something with an epidemic.
Also marching support units to convert them all is really good.

But I never play against bots for years. Maybe they're improved now.

Apr 03, 2018 22:05

Subject: Re:You should fake real players with bots

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please stop necroing threads keymaster

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May 27, 2020 09:12

Subject: You should fake real players with bots

Flash99

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Why not try some neutral network bots? Does an AlphaUni sound exciting?

I think I might be about to help if you open up an API, and there should be plenty AI engineers in the community

May 28, 2020 01:40

Subject: Re:You should fake real players with bots

wookieontheweb

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Wow, that's a blast from the past. I did ask about this when uniwar was still owned by xavi, it's creator. I have raised the question with pashaka in the in game chat but i think it got politely ignored. Currently there isn't much you can do api wise.

However I did reverse engineer the map and created an html5 viewer. I got the files from my rooted device and never worked out if i could pull them direct. Seemed plausible as it didn't look encrypted. If you want i am happy to give you a link to my github repo if you pm me, then you can see where i got with it. It's pretty old and I'm not promising the code won't make you want to vomit!

However, if you can get the map in a browser and re-implement all the rules, then you can also run an AI locally and it could do whatever you want. You could also make a better editor, test new units, new tiles, etc. I just ran out of enthusiasm.

You may want to raise things like this in game chat. I'm one of the last to view the site and I'm not that regular a visitor.

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