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Oct 20, 2010 08:03

Subject: Dead Monk should be modified

Solitary

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The top forest tile in the triangle should be changed to a normal tile or a desert tile. This would give khrals less problems dealing with marine spam and my world renowned single helicopter push which since I went over 1800 hasn't actually lost a single game. It would also widen the choke point for saps vs titans and allow a tank push against single tank and mass speeders which basically can't be beaten with sapiens in the same way as my helicopter push can't really be stopped with khral.

(well, both can be stopped but it requires a large mistake by the person implementing those strategies)

Oct 20, 2010 15:35

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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I agree that saps have an edge over krahls, but I still think saps are quite capable of beating titans on Dead Monk. I can even think of ways of beating my titan strategy on dead monk

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Oct 20, 2010 21:08

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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Lol, single tank then mass speeders isn't your strategy xD.

You went tank, speeder x3, then assimilator, then tank then walker or something like that. And just because you think you have an idea for how to push against titans on dead monk doesn't mean it would actually work if you tried it in a game :o.

Oct 20, 2010 22:21

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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lol Wait what? I guess I'm misunderstanding something xD

You're saying mass speeder isn't my strategy, and then you're saying I make 3 speeders?

But imo, you would've won the game we just played the last few couple of days...your build was one turn too slow...

Solitary wrote: And just because you think you have an idea for how to push against titans on dead monk doesn't mean it would actually work if you tried it in a game :o.

I'd be happy to test this with you unrated. Me as saps and you as titans.

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Oct 20, 2010 22:44

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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Yeah, 3 speeders is not 4, 5 or 6 :p. That's what players higher ranked than you do on dead monk vs saps and I can't find a way to break in as you have to put a tank on a forest tile to get more than one tank involved, which means the speeders wreck it anyways. Because they have more units than you anyways they can just assimilator and repair for +4 a time and marauders lose against speeders as well. You can't use batteries or engineers to pressure them that easily because the move after attack either keeps them out of range or allows them to jump inside your range if you're not doing an expensive tank/engineer build, then you just get walkered to death later xD.

Oct 21, 2010 15:51

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

nfong

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hmm

So do you want to test it out with me as saps and you as titans?

oh, and btw, if you want me to, I can post a few tips that most likely would've helped you win yesterday.

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Oct 21, 2010 21:14

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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We can give it a whirl, I've worked out a way of forcing titans to deviate from that build but it's not a winning strategy :o. Got some more testing to do before I decide on it xD. Titans tend to play this strategy as red because then you get speeders a turn earlier so if you send me the invite we'll see how it goes

Oct 21, 2010 21:37

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

nfong

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okay

So do you want the tips? lol I really think you would've won yesterday. I mean really.

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Oct 22, 2010 05:55

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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Pm them

. We'll try to avoid spamming this thread with details of a specific match we played xD.

Oct 23, 2010 09:05

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

Nicko

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Definitively need a change, I don't think I ever won a game on that map I got to 2000

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Oct 23, 2010 09:51

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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At this stage I think 8 of my 19 losses are now on dead monk vs titans, lol. The rest are early on in my uniwar learning or miscellaneous games where I was outplayed but 8 of 19 is nearly half and players a lot lower than me on the ladder can win sap vs titan against me.

Oct 23, 2010 16:27

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

nfong

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lol

What other maps do you like playing solitary?

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Oct 24, 2010 03:22

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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Montevideo, rocky, wild plains, laguna niguel, forest walk (mostly sap vs sap) and a few games on starvation every now and then although it's a little slow for me xD. I also like chato hill but it favours red slightly so I don't ever host it, although I would if kralux ever gets round to reading my post and modifying it because it's actually a very well constructed map.

Oct 24, 2010 10:33

Subject: Re:Dead Monk should be modified

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Well, that game you were a little careless but I think you get the idea either way >.<. Because you can only involve one tank at a time without putting it on a forest then you don't have anything left as speeders outmanouver batteries and engineers very comfortably.

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