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Feb 10, 2017 02:31

Subject: Armor piercing

s3m420

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Can someone please explain how this new feature works? I see the stats on each unit, but without knowing the math, the numbers don't mean anything.

Feb 10, 2017 03:14

Subject: Armor piercing

LkASr

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very simple:

Unit defense x % of armor piercing

Let's say, Bopper vs Hydronaut

Bopper pierces 50% of Hydro's defense

10 Def x 50% (0.5) armor piercing = 5 Def pierced

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Feb 10, 2017 03:33

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Duaneski

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Someone posted about how rounding works in the chat yesterday. But because I choose to ignore the math component of the game I didn't read it well enough to remember.

But if you get a weird number like 8.6, it does SOMETHING. I just can't tell you what.

(It becomes either 8 or 9, I think.

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Feb 10, 2017 16:54

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Porphyr

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Please note that the armor piercing is applied after the terrain effect. This means that the armor piercing / defense reduction is stronger on "good" terrain and weaker on "bad" terrain, and afterwards it is rounded.
(The "good" terrain part is theoretical though, because air/heavy/aqua units have no terrain with defense bonus)
Example:

Eclipse (defense: 9) on plain (+/- 0), attacked by Borfly (50%AP): Effective defense: 9 * 50% = 4.5, rounded 5 (AP effect: -4)
Eclipse (defense: 9) on forest (- 3), attacked by Borfly (50%AP): Effective defense: (9-3) * 50% = 3 (AP effect: -3)

Feb 11, 2017 17:16

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Michaelrn

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Duaneski wrote:Someone posted about how rounding works in the chat yesterday. But because I choose to ignore the math component of the game I didn't read it well enough to remember.

But if you get a weird number like 8.6, it does SOMETHING. I just can't tell you what.

(It becomes either 8 or 9, I think.

)

That's interesting, I would like to know how does the rounding exactly work.

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Feb 11, 2017 17:42

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Porphyr

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Hi Michael! See me post above?

8.6 would become 9, BTW

Feb 12, 2017 14:11

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Michaelrn

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Porphyr wrote:Hi Michael! See me post above?

8.6 would become 9, BTW

So, the defense is rounded up if it gets a decimal value of 5 or more, otherwise it is rounded down, am I right?

Mar 08, 2017 10:18

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

elektroniek

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To be honest, I am still not really sure how the piercing works - even after reading your explanations.

All because I stumbled across this situation:

I had a 10 health garuda placed on top of a city and it got attacked by a 10 health borfly.
To my suprise, the borfly made 4 damage on the garuda.

I thought the math would be like this: Garuda has 8 def, reduced by 2 because of terrain (city), therefore def 6.
Borfly has 50% piercing, leaving the garuda with def 3.
Borfly has only attack 1 vs. air, so it should be 1 attack vs. 3 def => Damage 4 should be impossible.

Does the piercing mean, the percentage of the reduced armour is directly inflicted as damage?
Than the math would add up...

Thanks for your help

Mar 14, 2017 21:58

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

ninjacentaur

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removed, wrong thread

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Sep 08, 2017 04:29

Subject: Re:Armor piercing

Cpt Hawaiian

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I would also like an explanation about the armor piercing concept. I don't understand it at all.

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